Saturday, July 16, 2005
Thoughts On What We Are Being Confronted With
i would like to offer my opinion based on what i have seen with my own eyes and have learned the past fifteen years.........
the muslim fanatics have found out that the west is very capable of being defeated because the west allows for the 'rule of law' instead of declaring what the actual 'reality' is.......
and that is that we have fanatics in and around countries that allow for incitement, recruiting, and thus a flourishing of the belief that 'a heaven for god' can be made on our planet if they can just get rid of those who will stand in paradises way.
please check out britain's appeasement of their fanatics over the past ten years, ny times had an article in it this sunday.
last time i checked war was not a pretty entity, people die - including my friends. sacrifice is needed to fight a war.
the west and all other govts that want a secluar foundation will lose this war unless they stand up and acknowledge that its basic tenets and its way of life are under seige.
we can argue until we are blue in the face about what causes the 'other side' to act in the way it does.....
for example, do the extremists become more extreme because we push forward with the war in afghanistan and iraq?
or do the extremists become more extreme because after they bombed madrid last year they saw they could get a country to actually vote a ruling govt out of office who wanted a quiet way out of the fight ahead?
the problem for the west is that we are too comfortable and we are fighting an enemy that is not. we refuse to give up our privileges while those we battle are united in a zealots fantasy.
the west has as of yet not been woken up from its stupor of excess and leisure activity.
it will be interesting to see what happens when the day comes that a european nation gets completely fed up with attacks coming from its own citizens of whom they have done everything possible to make their own.
THE FOLLOWING i wrote to a friend in march of last year after the madrid bombings.....and the the defeat of aznar's govt. in spain in the ensuing days....
"do you really think you would hear anything about appeasement coming out of anyones mouth in europe? when chamberlin told the english and the world that all had been settled with hitler there were not many voices warning against him, except for churchill.
i do not have a crystal ball into the future but i see what happened yesterday as a way of showing the terrorists that their actions have direct and positive effects. as has been pointed out the popular party was ahead in the polls until saturday when all things became obvious about al-qaida being involved.
perhaps the popular party committed a mortal sin if they lied and knew that it was al-qaida that had attacked but nevertheless it is not a reason for the victim to blame themselves or their govt for being attacked. as i pointed out yesterday attacks have occured nearly every place soft targets have existed.
what i see is the following:
italy possibly going left in the next election,
germany turning right but staying neutral,
france possibly going left, but no matter what staying above the fray as they see it.
great britain continuing its path but with a large amount of voices that say they should talk this problem out.......
and therein lies the problem, this cannot be talked out. it must be dealt with. europe is not united except in their ability to hide from what is coming.
this will become a war of attrition and it may take one hundred years to play out because of the need to be politically correct in europe and elsewhere in the west, the desire to please everybody is going to backfire very badly.
europe will find itself fighting a war for its soul........
it could take another 10 to 20 years before the fanatics control saudi arabia but so be it. it could take another 20 or 40 years for them to control turkey but so be it.
the only thing that can save our world is one unified policy of stoping fanatics and extremists at the roots. but this is not going to happen, we dont want to upset anyone.
gross amount of corruption within the arab states leading to total poverty, allowing radical teaching of children to hate the west and make them believe they suffer because of the west.
i really dont want to go into the depth of this long term struggle, but i will say that madrid is not the final stop in this terrorism parade.
i am quite certain spain signed the death sentence of many people yesterday, i hope i am wrong."
the muslim fanatics have found out that the west is very capable of being defeated because the west allows for the 'rule of law' instead of declaring what the actual 'reality' is.......
and that is that we have fanatics in and around countries that allow for incitement, recruiting, and thus a flourishing of the belief that 'a heaven for god' can be made on our planet if they can just get rid of those who will stand in paradises way.
please check out britain's appeasement of their fanatics over the past ten years, ny times had an article in it this sunday.
last time i checked war was not a pretty entity, people die - including my friends. sacrifice is needed to fight a war.
the west and all other govts that want a secluar foundation will lose this war unless they stand up and acknowledge that its basic tenets and its way of life are under seige.
we can argue until we are blue in the face about what causes the 'other side' to act in the way it does.....
for example, do the extremists become more extreme because we push forward with the war in afghanistan and iraq?
or do the extremists become more extreme because after they bombed madrid last year they saw they could get a country to actually vote a ruling govt out of office who wanted a quiet way out of the fight ahead?
the problem for the west is that we are too comfortable and we are fighting an enemy that is not. we refuse to give up our privileges while those we battle are united in a zealots fantasy.
the west has as of yet not been woken up from its stupor of excess and leisure activity.
it will be interesting to see what happens when the day comes that a european nation gets completely fed up with attacks coming from its own citizens of whom they have done everything possible to make their own.
THE FOLLOWING i wrote to a friend in march of last year after the madrid bombings.....and the the defeat of aznar's govt. in spain in the ensuing days....
"do you really think you would hear anything about appeasement coming out of anyones mouth in europe? when chamberlin told the english and the world that all had been settled with hitler there were not many voices warning against him, except for churchill.
i do not have a crystal ball into the future but i see what happened yesterday as a way of showing the terrorists that their actions have direct and positive effects. as has been pointed out the popular party was ahead in the polls until saturday when all things became obvious about al-qaida being involved.
perhaps the popular party committed a mortal sin if they lied and knew that it was al-qaida that had attacked but nevertheless it is not a reason for the victim to blame themselves or their govt for being attacked. as i pointed out yesterday attacks have occured nearly every place soft targets have existed.
what i see is the following:
italy possibly going left in the next election,
germany turning right but staying neutral,
france possibly going left, but no matter what staying above the fray as they see it.
great britain continuing its path but with a large amount of voices that say they should talk this problem out.......
and therein lies the problem, this cannot be talked out. it must be dealt with. europe is not united except in their ability to hide from what is coming.
this will become a war of attrition and it may take one hundred years to play out because of the need to be politically correct in europe and elsewhere in the west, the desire to please everybody is going to backfire very badly.
europe will find itself fighting a war for its soul........
it could take another 10 to 20 years before the fanatics control saudi arabia but so be it. it could take another 20 or 40 years for them to control turkey but so be it.
the only thing that can save our world is one unified policy of stoping fanatics and extremists at the roots. but this is not going to happen, we dont want to upset anyone.
gross amount of corruption within the arab states leading to total poverty, allowing radical teaching of children to hate the west and make them believe they suffer because of the west.
i really dont want to go into the depth of this long term struggle, but i will say that madrid is not the final stop in this terrorism parade.
i am quite certain spain signed the death sentence of many people yesterday, i hope i am wrong."
// posted by Zevchi @ 10:51 AM 
